not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> "i know that the president certainly wants a deal. he didn't try to handicap it." and earlier this week, he told so called middle class americans on twitter keep pressure on congress, he's even ventured outside the beltway rallying supporters to do just that "i'm going to be asking all of you to make your voices heard." >> why isn't he calling speaker boehner over to a white house meeting? "speaker boehner and i speak frequently. and, you know, i (reporter: "so when? when will the two of you sit down in a room?") >> "you know, i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room." in part the white house was burned by the debt ceiling negotiations of 2011 when lots of meetings, failed to stave off a fiscal nightmare. but there's another strategy at play. some in the administration say they learned in the first term, the best way to break washington stalemates: rally the public to the